Katheer bin Sulaym ad-Dabbi, Abu Salamah al-Madaa’ini

Name:

كثير بن سليم الضبى ، أبو سلمة المدائنى ( و ليس بالأبلى )

Katheer bin Sulaym ad-Dabbi, Abu Salamah al-Madaa’ini (He is not Al-Ubulli)

Tabaqah: 5 - From the Minor Taabi'een

Narrated by: Ibn Maajah

Teachers: Anas bin Maalik, Hasan al-Basri, & Ad-Dahhaak bin Muzaahim

Students: Ahmed bin Abdullah bin Yoonus, Jabbaarah bin Mughallis, Sallaam bin Sulemaan al-Madaa’ini, Abu Saalih Abdullah bin Saalih (the scribe of Layth), Abu Aamir Abdul Malik bn Amr al-Aqdi, Amr bin Awn al-Waasiti, and others.

Status: Munkar ul-Hadeeth

Opinions of Ahl ul-Jarh wat Ta’deel:

Those who criticized him:

1-    Imaam Yahya bin Ma’een (D. 233) said:

“ضعيف”

“Da’eef”

[ Taareekh Ibn Ma'een, narrated by ad-Dauri (2/493)]

It is said that Imaam Yahya bin Ma’een also said:

“لا يكتب حديثه”

“His narrations are not written down”

[Su’aalaat Al-Ajurri (4/10), Chain Weak]

2-    Imaam Muhammad bin Ismaa’eel al-Bukhaari (D. 256) said:

“منكر الحديث”

“Munkar ul-Hadeeth”

[ Taareekh al-Kabeer (7/218)]

3-    Imaam Abu Zur’ah ar-Raazi (D. 264) said:

“واهي الحديث”

“He is wasted in hadeeth”

[ Al-Jarh wat Ta’deel by Ibn Abi Haatim (7/152)]

4-    Imaam Abu Haatim ar-Raazi (D. 275) said:

“ضعيف الحديث، منكر الحديث، لا يروي عَنْ أنس حديثا له أصل من رواية غيره”

“Da’eef in Hadeeth, Munkar ul-Hadeeth, he did not narrate a single narration from Anas which had a basis from the narration of narrators other than him”

[ Al-Jarh wat Ta'deel by Ibn Abi Haatim (7/152)]

5-    Imaam Al-Nasaa’ee (D. 303) said:

“متروك الحديث”

“Matrook in Hadeeth”

[ Ad-Du'afa wal Matrokeen by al-Nasaa'ee (509)]

6-    Imaam Ibn Hibbaan (D. 354) said:

“كَثِير بْن سُلَيْم هُوَ الذي يقال له: كَثِير بْن عَبد اللَّهِ يروي عَنْ أنس مَا ليس من حديثه ويضع عليه ثم يحدث به، لا يحل كتابة حديثه ولا الرواية عنه إِلا على سبيل الاختبار”

“Katheer bin Sulaym who is also called Katheer bin Abdullah, he has narrated from Anas some narrations which were not among his narrations and he fabricated them on him, then he narrated from it. It is not permissible to neither write his narrations nor narrate from him except for the sake of examining”

[ Al-Majroheen by Ibn Hibbaan (2/223)]

Note: Ibn Hibbaan has mixed two separate narrators “Katheer bin Sulaym” and “Katheer bin Abdullah” as one; and he thought that they are one person. But this is not correct.

7-    Imaam Abu al-Hasan ad-Daaraqutni (D. 385) mentioned him in Ad-Du’afa wal Matrokeen (444).

8-    Imaam Abu Ahmed bin Adee al-Jarjaani (D. 365) mentioned some of his narrations from Anas bin Maalik and said:

“وهذه الروايات، عَن أَنَس عامتها غير محفوظة”

“And these narrations from Anas, most of them are unpreserved”

[ Al-Kaamil (7/200)]

9-    Imaam Shams ud-Deen adh-Dhahabi (D. 748) said:

“ضعفوه”

“They have weakened him”

[ Al-Kaashif (4633)]

10-          Haafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalaani (D. 852) said:

“ضعيف”

“Da’eef”

[ Taqreeb (5613)]

11-          Haafidh Noor ud-Deen al-Haythami (D. 807) said:

“كَثِيرُ بْنُ سُلَيْمٍ ضَعِيفٌ”

“Katheer bin Sulaym is Da’eef”

[ Majma az-Zawaaid (2/126, 7/175, 10/89, & 10/209)]

Those who praised him:

None

Conclusion:

Katheet bin Sulaym is Munkar ul-Hadeeth.

Zayd bin al-Hawaari, Abu al-Hawaari al-Ammi

Name:

زيد بن الحوارى ، أبو الحوارى العمى البصرى قاضى هراة

Zayd bin al-Hawaari, Abu al-Hawaari al-Ammi al-Basri, the Qaadhi of Huraat

Tabaqah: 5 - From the Minor Taabi'een

Narrated by: Abu Dawood – Tirmidhi – Nasaa'ee – Ibn Maajah

Teachers: Ja’far bin Zayd al-Abdi, Hasan al-Basri, Sa’eed bin Jubayr, Sa’eed bin al-Musayyab, Abu Waa’il Shaqeeq bin Salamah, Urwah bin az-Zubayr, Ikrimah Mawla Ibn Abbaas, Mu’aawiyah bin Qurrah, Naafi’ Mawla Ibn Umar, Yazeed ar-Riqaashi, Abu Ishaaq as-Sabi’ee, Abu as-Siddeeq an-Naaji, Abu al-Aaliyah ar-Riyaahi, Abu Nadrah al-Abdi

Imaam Abu Haatim said, "His narration from Anas bin Maalik is Mursal" [Maraseel by Ibn Abi Haatim (65)]

Students: Jaabir al-Ju’fi, Sufyaan ath-Thawree, Sulemaan al-A’mash, Sallaam at-Ta’weel, Shu’bah bin al-Hajjaaj, Abdur Raheem bin Zayd al-Ammi, Abdur Rahmaan bin Zayd al-Ammi, Fudayl bin Marzooq, Mis’ar bin Kidaam, Hishaam bin Hissaan, Hushaym bin Bushayr, Abu Ishaaq al-Fizaari and others.

Status: Da’eef

Opinions of Ahl ul-Jarh wat Ta’deel:

Those who criticized him:

1-    Imaam Wakee’ bin al-Jarraah (D. 196) said:

“حديث زيد العمي، عن أبي الصديق الناجي، ليس بشيء”

“The hadeeth of Zayd al-Ammi from Abu as-Siddeeq an-Naaji is nothing”

[ Ad-Du’afa al-Kabeer lil Uqaylee (2/74), Chain Saheeh]

2-    Imaam Muhammad bin Sa’d (D. 230) said:

“وكان ضعيفًا في الحديث”

“He was Da’eef in Hadeeth”

[Tabaqaat al-Kubra (7/178)]

3-    Imaam Ahmed bin Hanbal (D. 241) said:

“فأما حديث زيد العمي، عن أبي الصديق، ليس بشيء”

“As for the hadeeth of Zayd al-Ammi from Abu as-Siddeeq, then its nothing”

[ Al-Ilal by Abdullah bin Ahmed (5983, 5984)]

In another place, he said:

“صالح”

“Saalih”

[Al-Ilal (4143)]

Note: This is neither a Tawtheeq nor a Jarh.

4-    Imaam Yahya bin Ma’een (D. 233) said:

“لا شيء”

“He is nothing”

[ Al-Jarh wat Ta’deel (3/560) & Su’alaat Ibn Tahmaan (47)]

In another place, he said:

“زيد العمي وأبو الصديق الناجي يكتب حديثهما وهما ضعيفان”

“Write the narrations of Zayd al-Ammi and Abu as-Siddeeq an-Naaji and they both are weak”

[Ad-Du’afa al-Kabeer lil Uqaylee (2/74), Chain Saheeh]

5-    Imaam Ali bin Abdullah al-Madeeni (D. 234) said:

“كان ضعيفا عندنا”

“He is Da’eef according to us”

[ Su’aalaat Ibn Abi Shaybah (15)]

6-    Imaam Ibraaheem bin Ya’qoob al-Juzjaani (D. 259) said:

“متماسك”

“Coherent”

[ Ahwaal ur-Rijaal (366)]

Shaykh Muqbil bin Haadi al-Waadi’ee said:

“أما متماسك فهو إلى الضعف أقرب، وكذلك قائم والله أعلم”

“As for the word ‘Mutamaasik’ then it is more close to weakness and same is the word ‘Qaa’im’, wallaahu a’lam”

[Al-Muqtarih fi Ajwibah Ba’d As’ilah al-Mustalah (P. 94)]

7-    Imaam Abu Zur’ah ar-Raazi (D. 264) said:

“ليس بقوي، واهي الحديث، ضعيف”

“He is not strong, wasted in hadeeth, Da’eef”

[ Al-Jarh wat Ta’deel (3/561)]

8-    Imaam Abu Haatim ar-Raazi (D. 275) said:

“ضعيف الحديث، يكتب حديثه ولا يحتج به وكان شعبة لا يحمد حفظه”

“Da’eef in Hadeeth, write his narration but do not take evidence from it, and Shu’bah would not praise his memorization”

[ Al-Jarh wat Ta’deel (3/560)]

Note: Against this Jarh of Shu’bah, his narration from him would not work as a Tawtheeq, because although Shu’bah only narrated from Thiqah narrators according to him, but that is only when he himself does not criticize and make an exception of a certain narrator.

9-    Imaam Al-Nasaa’ee (D. 303) said:

“ضعيف”

“Da’eef”

[ Al-Kaamil by Ibn Adee (4/147)]

10-          Imaam Abu Ahmed bin Adee al-Jarjaani (D. 365) said:

“هو في جملة الضعفاء، ويكتب حديثه على ضعفه”

“He is among the weak narrators, and despite his weakness his narrations are written down”

[ Al-Kaamil (4/152)]

11-          Imaam Ibn Hibbaan (D. 354) said:

“يروي عن أنس أشياء موضوعة لا أصل لها حتى يسبق إلي القلب أنه المتعمد لها، وكان يحيى يمرض القول فيه، وهو عندي لا يجوز الاحتجاج بخبره ولا كتابة حديثه إلا للاعتبار”

“He narrated fabricated narrations from Anas which had no basis until it occurred in heart that he is deliberate in it, and Yahya (bin Ma’een) had bad opinion about him, and it is not permissible, according to me, to take evidence from his report or write his hadeeth except for consideration”

[ Al-Majroheen by Ibn Hibbaan (1/309)]

12-          Imaam Ibn Abdil Barr al-Andalusi (D. 463) said:

“ليس بالقوي عندهم”

“He is not that strong according to them”

[ Al-Istaghnaa with reference from Ikmaal Tahdheeb al-Kamaal (5/148)]

13-          Haafidh Abdul Haqq al-Ashbaylee (D. 581) said:

“مَعْرُوف فِي الضُّعَفَاء”

“He is among the famous weak narrators”

[ Kitaab al-Ahkaam with reference from Bayaan al-Wahem (3/193)]

14-          Haafidh Abu al-Hasan Ibn al-Qattaan al-Faasi (D. 628) said:

“وَهُوَ عِنْدهم ضَعِيف”

“And he is Da’eef according to them”

[ Bayaan al-Wahem (3/349)]

15-          Imaam Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi (D. 456) said:

“هالك”

“Destroyed”

[ Al-Muhalla bil Athaar with reference from Ikmaal (5/148)]

16-          Imaam Shams ud-Deen adh-Dhahabi (D. 748) said:

“ليس بالقوي”

“He is not that strong”

[ Deewaan ad-Du’afa (1529)]

17-          Haafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalaani (D. 852) said:

“ضعيف”

“Da’eef”

[ Taqreeb (2131)]

18-          Haafidh Noor ud-Deen al-Haythami (D. 807) said:

“هُوَ ضَعِيفٌ”

“He is Da’eef”

[ Majma az-Zawaaid (1/230)]

In another place, he said:

“وَضَعَّفَهُ الْجُمْهُورُ”

“And Jumhoor has weakened him”

[ Majma az-Zawaaid (10/110)]

Those who praised him:

Ibn Khalfoon and Ibn Shaaheen mentioned him in their Ath-Thiqaat.

[Al-Ikmaal]

Conclusion:

Zayd al-Ammi is Da’eef